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Mike Stothers

Postby oldref on Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:43 pm

I guess the Atlanta Thrashers see a lot more in Mike than most of our hockey wise posters or they wouldn't have signed him as an assistant coach.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby Yogi Bear on Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:10 am

Like I 've said before there is a reason most of us fan(atic)s aren't running a hockey team.The only problem I had with Mike was his lack of emotion on the bench,and of course whatever caused the room to implode in Bobby's last year.That team should have been a contender.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby Pitou on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:35 pm

His honeymoon with the Peoria Rivermen didn't last too long either. Wants your point Old ref? I don't care who signs him. He's a hockey lifer with connections. He'll land somewhere.

What are you suggesting? Suddenly because he got an NHL assistant job we got it all wrong and maybe he was an effective coach after all?? He got the most out of his teams/ players here in Owen Sound? Hardly. I wish no ill-will on the man and maybe he will find the right chemistry to be successful as a coach. His punitive, "everyones-fault-but-mine style" didn't work here. Plain and simple. He had enough talent handed to him to at least contend.

When he leads a team to a championship as head coach, I'll buy ya a beer Old ref and wear a "Stothers is #1" T-shirt.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby attackisback on Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:14 am

Owen Sound seems to have alot of people who believe they could coach a team to an ohl title or stanley cup. Everytime theres a new coach in town and theres no memorial cup in the first year,these 'coaches" are quick to jump all over the bench boss and want him out the door.

More times than not its the players to blame.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby Attack Trac on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:08 am

Very well said Pitou!
Couldn't agree more.

Not sure where your post is aimed Attackisback...You are correct that there are a lot of opinions and suggestions on the board, but in reality even the most hi-tech cruise ship needs to have a captain!
Without that, they are just all components with no direction.

I am not sure why some people take offence to the fact that it is possible for people hired as Coaches, who just can't seem to rally their troops or be effective in their job.
It is like everything else, it takes practice, training and skill. Some guys can put the pieces together, and some can't.

Does that mean that people point out flaws want to be the next coach?
Not sure that is my intent.

I for one wish it was possible to just give a little "Rah-Rah" and fix all the deficiencies we see.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby goldfish on Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:38 pm

sometimes people forget that the CHL is a develepment league...for EVERY position including the coach. Not everyone comes to this league knowing how to "coach" at an elite level or one would have to ask what they are doing here.

I am not making excuses for anything or anyone one, just stating the fact.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby goldfish on Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:05 pm

Proud member of the Scott Stajcer fan club!!
Proud member of the Owen Sound chapter of Pom Pom Shakers of the OHL!!!
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby Digger on Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:59 pm

Pitou wrote:His honeymoon with the Peoria Rivermen didn't last too long either. Wants your point Old ref? I don't care who signs him. He's a hockey lifer with connections. He'll land somewhere.


Mike Stothers never coached in Peoria :roll:

Pitou wrote:What are you suggesting? Suddenly because he got an NHL assistant job we got it all wrong and maybe he was an effective coach after all?? He got the most out of his teams/ players here in Owen Sound? Hardly. I wish no ill-will on the man and maybe he will find the right chemistry to be successful as a coach. His punitive, "everyones-fault-but-mine style" didn't work here. Plain and simple. He had enough talent handed to him to at least contend.

When he leads a team to a championship as head coach, I'll buy ya a beer Old ref and wear a "Stothers is #1" T-shirt.


Come on it was not all bad.

Mike's second year his team played Guelph the first round and it took Guelph who had 49 wins that year compared to the Attack's 30 wins 7 games to beat the Attack. That team over achieved.

Mike's third year his team with 90 points and 40 wins finished second only to the London Knights who had 120 points that year. They lost out in the second round to the Rangers who finished the year with 83 points. If anything it was a minor upset. No other coach in Attack history has 40 wins.

Mike's 4th year his team upset the Rangers in 5 games before losing to London in 6 games. This is another over achievement.

MIke's 5th year the team was a major disappointment and he deserves the criticism along with the players.


Myself I think it is great for Mke to get back in the game and being an assistant in the NHL is not a bad place to be if your a coach.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby Digger on Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:03 pm

goldfish wrote:sometimes people forget that the CHL is a develepment league...for EVERY position including the coach. Not everyone comes to this league knowing how to "coach" at an elite level or one would have to ask what they are doing here.

I am not making excuses for anything or anyone one, just stating the fact.


I never forget. :lol:

I agree to some extend about the coaches but if your a head coach in another league and you come to the OHL I give you one year to adapt.

After that I want results.

That means improvements unlike what we have seen to date.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby Pitou on Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:02 am

Digger wrote:
Pitou wrote:His honeymoon with the Peoria Rivermen didn't last too long either. Wants your point Old ref? I don't care who signs him. He's a hockey lifer with connections. He'll land somewhere.


Mike Stothers never coached in Peoria :roll:

Pitou wrote:What are you suggesting? Suddenly because he got an NHL assistant job we got it all wrong and maybe he was an effective coach after all?? He got the most out of his teams/ players here in Owen Sound? Hardly. I wish no ill-will on the man and maybe he will find the right chemistry to be successful as a coach. His punitive, "everyones-fault-but-mine style" didn't work here. Plain and simple. He had enough talent handed to him to at least contend.

When he leads a team to a championship as head coach, I'll buy ya a beer Old ref and wear a "Stothers is #1" T-shirt.


Come on it was not all bad.

Mike's second year his team played Guelph the first round and it took Guelph who had 49 wins that year compared to the Attack's 30 wins 7 games to beat the Attack. That team over achieved.

Mike's third year his team with 90 points and 40 wins finished second only to the London Knights who had 120 points that year. They lost out in the second round to the Rangers who finished the year with 83 points. If anything it was a minor upset. No other coach in Attack history has 40 wins.

Mike's 4th year his team upset the Rangers in 5 games before losing to London in 6 games. This is another over achievement.

MIke's 5th year the team was a major disappointment and he deserves the criticism along with the players.


Myself I think it is great for Mke to get back in the game and being an assistant in the NHL is not a bad place to be if your a coach.


My mistake. I meant the Griffins. A short honeymoon nonetheless. But thanks for the eye roll to go along with your correction. I hope it made you feel smarter.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby CHL Watcher on Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:12 am

Digger

It's an overall picture. Did they overachieve in the playoffs because they had underachieved in the regular season? Did they overachieve in the regular season or underachieve in the playoffs?

I'd say.....for me...it was inconsistant play considering the line-up.....and there was clearly a downward trend in most years.

In retrospect, we're seeing flatline these days.

I'm not sure what was going on in the Stothers days but it sure looked and sounded ugly on more than one occasion within view or earshot of plain ordinary fans. I didn't really feel the love.

In retrospect, I wonder what team was actually tighter.

Stothers was a draw for players, at least to start out, and there were some great stories on the ice that Stothers could see and appreciate.....like Igor Gongalsky....how about Mike Angelidis? At least he gave you a shot and rewarded a work ethic and recognised that you need a bit of everything to have some success. I'll give credit to Futa for finding people but Stothers was there when Sekera blossomed into the leagues best defenseman.....Giordano.....Peckham...and so on. More evidence that gems were being found and developed. So maybe he wasn't so bad. It's always going to be tough to tell because many things went wrong near the end to just kind of wreck the whole show.

Anyway.....that's my two cents for now.
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby ice warrior on Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:15 pm

He could stand back, cross his arms and chew gum pretty good and that's about it, but as far as figuring out the OHL, he was lost.

Hope he can coach the older guys than the younger kids or Atlanta would be better off signing Peter Puck
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Re: Mike Stothers

Postby CHL Watcher on Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:21 pm

yep...

so it's kind of sad that he looks good in hindsight.

When the current team shows any evidence of overachieving in regular season or playoffs, or shows any sign of fight and heart (outside of a guy or two) then we can all forget the odd past glimmer of good times or hope and look forward to something good. In the meantime this franchise has serious issues.....whether they choose to acknowledge them or not.

This coach has no more than one more year to improve things ( wanna bet? ) and this GM has to show that he will continue to bring muscle to the line-up to help the cause. (Wilson and Wilson clones would be good for the purpose)
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