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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Surly on Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:28 pm

rangerfansince69 wrote:why?


on the ice, as you well know Surly, that would be a "slur" :oops:


show me.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Calinduil on Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:34 pm

Is anybody even sure if Hicks is really a dude? Maybe Jeff is just short for Nancy.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby BrantfordRanger on Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:08 pm

Is there really no way the Record can get someone better to write this column? Seriously, just about anyone would do.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Overager on Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:38 pm

For years I have been saying that Hicks, for whatever reason, dislikes the Rangers and,whenever possible, will put a negative slant on whatever the Rangers do. He never says anything negative about the Storm even when sleepy Dave Barr suggested that someone break an arm of an opposing player. The league suspended Barr for, I believe, twenty or twenty -five games but Hicks didn't make much of it. I don't think the Rangers can ban him from the auditorium or even the dressing room. They simply don't give him much inside information.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby manutd on Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:25 pm

i for one am all for unbiased reporting and calling things like they are. This however, borders on the line of complete and utter crap. Hicks is nothing but a tool. It is a well known fact that he dislikes the Rangers. He always has and always will. I will be the first to give credit where credit is due when the media doesn't sugar coat things. This article however is so one sided that it is laughable. Look at the state of the franchise when 85% of the players he mentioned where here. We had no direction and to be honest our coaching and management was not good. That has a direct effect on the development of the young kids. how are they supposed to learn and develop when they aren't put in the right situations? Since P.D and S. Spott took over the number of players who have developed into good players and quality people is very solid. Perhaps Hicks in the future needs to tell both sides of the story. I have no doubts he will continue to find the negatives but it would be nice to see him also point out the positives. I probablly have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening though.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby trentonbasic on Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:50 pm

Overager wrote: I don't think the Rangers can ban him from the auditorium or even the dressing room. They simply don't give him much inside information.


What does it matter to him? His tickets are paid for. And they can ban him from any were it says "authorized personal only". Simple answer is this, The Rangers organization goes to the Record and says this "We do not want Jeff Hicks to write about us anymore, Until you send a new reporter and barr Hicks from reporting on us, we will not let you publish any story about us" I'm sure you can find something in a law says you can't report on something that wishes not to be named. How hard is it to tell someone to buzz off (not in those words)? I'm sure without the Rangers being in the paper for a week or 2 you would have complaints...

I recall 2 things on why he has it out to talk smack about the Rangers, 1) When Allegedly Roy and another player were "drinking" at a bowling ally for a public event, and were suspended by the team, They refused to comment on it, so he didn't get the scoop or story. Since then hes had it out for them. Number 2) in 2008 when we won the OHL he was not invited on the trip down south, wile Don and Gary were. He made a big article about that. That lead to a rule were a team can not go on a "payed for" (the players did put money into it as well) trip. Windsor did the same and Dave Branch did no step in there, I guess if your Taylor Hall rules don't apply to you. Anyways he made a big deal out of that.

I'm sick of his bashing of the Rangers. And I'm even more sick of his story's like what does Sam the preppy sailboat captain (not used but u get the point) have to do with hockey? Did you fail English? In High school and Post secondary school you loose marks for Random run on sentences... Maybe if he was a better reporter he would get more information were he doesn't have to add words or anything that doesn't relate to hockey to the article to make it long enough to print.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Medway Bear on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:01 am

trentonbasic wrote:And they can ban him from any were it says "authorized personal only". Simple answer is this, The Rangers organization goes to the Record and says this "We do not want Jeff Hicks to write about us anymore, Until you send a new reporter and barr Hicks from reporting on us, we will not let you publish any story about us" I'm sure you can find something in a law says you can't report on something that wishes not to be named. How hard is it to tell someone to buzz off (not in those words)? I'm sure without the Rangers being in the paper for a week or 2 you would have complaints...



I don't think that the Rangers can take away his media credentials and because of that they cannot ban him from the room. Here are the OHL rules on media access:

DRESSING ROOM ACCESS TO PLAYING PERSONNEL

Game Day/Night - Players will be available for media interviews up until 90 minutes before game time.
Dressing rooms will be opened to the media no later than 10 minutes after the conclusion of a game. All
persons of the media, appropriately accredited, shall have equal access to dressing rooms.

Practice Sessions - The media shall have access to view all team practice sessions and day of game skates.
In the event of a team meeting after a practice session, media access shall be allowed immediately following
the conclusion of the meeting.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Kenny the Rat on Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:33 am

Saying Hicks has a case of sour grapes stuck in his craw is hitting the nail on the head. He hasn't been the same since being snubbed by team management in that Derek Roy incident. Its tough when you are three foot seventeen and you get knocked down a peg or two by Deboer. The media thinks they have special rights to everyone's business and when someone tells them to go to hell they don't like it. Hicks is a small time reporter looking for his "Watergate" moment and he thinks he will find it digging up dirt on the Rangers and their teenage players. He is knowleadgible about the league but for some reason or other he seems to find more negative stuff to write about the Rangers than good.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby T-Bone on Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:45 am

A good article here that goes along with this topic. It mentions the Hicks article in it also. Looks like the IIHF is attempting to get all European players to stay in Europe to develop.


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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Cyclone Taylor on Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:59 am

^^ it's amazing how one-sided a story is when Hicks is wearing blinders.
It's also equally amazing how easy it is to refute the article!
Somehow I think Hicks would have trouble shooting fish in a barrel.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Surly on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:03 am

trentonbasic wrote:
Overager wrote:


I'm sure you can find something in a law says you can't report on something that wishes not to be named. How hard is it to tell someone to buzz off (not in those words)? I'm sure without the Rangers being in the paper for a week or 2 you would have complaints...



if you can find that then i'd be selling that knowledge to every politician, sports figure, movie star, heck anyone to keep their names out of the media when they do something stupid. That's the whole point of the media. To report on things.

Yes Hicks sounds like he has a bone to pick with the Rangers, Yes he irritates a certain segment of Ranger fans but really its a small segment. The bulk of Ranger fans either don't know or don't care about his point of view. The Rangers would be the ones who look bad removing access for a reporter because they aren't happy with what he wrote.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby JEF on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:12 pm

My stress level dropped after I stopped reading anything that Hicks wrote.

You know where his story is going even before you read it so there really is no need to bother.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby The_BIg_Bear on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:00 pm

It is disappointing to see that the summer heat has not been able to thaw Hicks' brain. He is still in a state of perpetual brain freeze.

I cannot understand how the Record can think this guy has any idea what he is talking about. My guess is that he has had a look at the report that is going to be presented at the Hockey Summit and has run with it without reading the whole thing.

Does he really think that every player that comes over in the Import Draft should be a guaranteed lock for an NHL career? He stated himself that 11.2% of them have had successful NHL careers. Has this guy done the math on how many Canadian/American CHL players ever make it to a successful NHL career? I would be willing to bet the number isn't even close to 11.2%.

And O wise one... what percentage of european players, who chose to stay at home for their junior careers, ever have succesful NHL careers? Not even 0.001% of them even get a sniff.

Hicks... if you still want a career in the newspaper business, why don't you see if there is a delivery route avalible in your neighbourhood. That is about all that you're qualified for.
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Eagle Vision on Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:24 am

There's actually a compelling arguement in this article.

With the exception of some of the recent Rangers' imports, the process seems "redundant" go overseas, play in Kitchener, then come back home and play professionally.

To me it's obvious that Weber, Valabik, and Boedker should have legitimate shots at completing at least 200-game NHL careers, and it's obvious that there's a huge bias in this article. Vratislav CECH - NOT CZECH!
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Re: Tobias Rieder

Postby Kemosabe on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:01 am

Surly wrote:There's a reason Canadian kids aren't going to Germany or any other country to play junior hockey. Its the same reason Euro's come to North America.


If a ref heard you say that on the ice you would get a penalty/be gone from the game?

That is what they (above) were trying to say to you supposedly Branch considers it as a slur.
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