by hitek on Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:45 pm
Hi Guelphguy101..
wow.. your on quite a roll...
First off... I couldn't resist.. sorry.. You said "I thinks is time Guelph Storm fans deserve an ownership group like that of the Windsor or London, or Kitchener these guys are always building and are not afraid to spend some cash to get things done right!"
Well.. In order.. in Kitchener the city owns the team, has a much bigger arena, the ultimate arena deal because they are shuffling money from one pocket to another.. so I don't think you can really compare Kitchener to Guelph. Besides, would
I really want to see the city of guelph own this team. My answer, not a hope in you know where.
Next up London... well anyone remember what London use to be like in their old arena ? Or even when they first moved to the nearly 10,000 seat complex. My son (now 16) used to ask what was up there behind the black curtains.. A reference to the entire upper bowl was closed. Go see Hamilton for what London used to be like. But with a winning team, London had capacity and with nearly 10,000 seats, more corporate boxes etc etc, all of a sudden there came the cash. No question
in my mind Mark Hunter is as good a GM as there is in the business. Dale, the coach.. thanks, no thanks.. didn't like him in
junior, still dont... But from a pure ownership standpoint Mark calls the shots and it is the capacity along with his GM skills that makes that tick. Verses Guelph, our 1st error was the city building this sized arena and downtown. They should have built 10,000 seats in the east or west end. That would have provided a better business case/revenue stream for other than hockey, and say in 2004, we would have been jammed. Next up, after that, we got out of the cycle of junior hockey.. and
that is a big problem. Rightly or wrongly I blame the putting the gm/coaches role together. True or not, you can't despute
we have not been close since the last time we won the OHL.
And last Windsor.. likely the best comparison... They built up a good team, got a new state of the art arena, and won a championship... they then did it again this year, which after watching 28 memorial cups, I still say was lucky.... the last two memorial cups had the weakest overall fields of any I have ever seen. Still, they won two memorial cups. Nothing to sneeze at.. To do so, GM got lucky to get Hall (or skilled) and a couple of big time pieces.. You could say we got Drew to but lost him.. but hey, we also got that Dustin Brown kid, lost him and still managed to win an OHL title. Clearly Windsor
peaked.. To me, still very comparible to us getting a new arena,hosting a mem cup, then winning a championship.
We hit the cycle and won in 2003-04.. Windsor did last year and this. You can say a better job, ok.. but if you win an
OHL title you have something going right.
To now compare Windsor to Guelph, I think we need to see how Windsor does in the next cycle. Won't take much to be
better than Guelph but lets see..
Are the owners in Windsor better than the past and current owners in Guelph... I am not sure.. maybe your right,
but I am not able to get to the same conclusion you did... at least not yet. Still not convinced that it is more
of which had the better coach, and with Boughner gone, lets just see how they do..
There is my two cents.. that hey is likely worth a cent and a quarter !! lol
Tim